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I was banned from the server today because I followed the procedures for entering the pattern to land on the carrier. Two 104th members came in and did a straight in landing on the carrier while I was making my turn to final. They did not announce that they were inbound and did NOT follow the pattern. One of them was 104th Knight in a Tomcat. He must have been the pilot or a Rio, but there were 2 of them involved in this infraction. My intention was to wave off when I saw them, but I wanted to let them know that I was there FIRST! We ended up colliding when I mis-calculated the elevation difference between me and the F14. Not even a few seconds later 104th Knight came in there complaining, I then instructed him that he did NOT declare an emergency or announce he was inbound on TS or SRS (Which is a rule when you join the server), in which I DID. When I confronted him about not following the rules, he said "It didn’t matter, we were on the deck". While it wasn’t my intention to collide with another plane, I wanted to make it very clear to him that he neglected basic landing procedures, and could have been avoided if THEY went in to a landing pattern. Not following procedures is what leads to accidents. I would have seen them a lot sooner and given them enough time to clear the deck. I have been flying on this server for years and have ALWAYS followed the rules. Unfortunately, some of your members are acting real green and not setting the example for others follow. It’s just not the same around here since Iron Mike left. I was banned from the server and banned from TS for the first time, after years on your server. Your members broke these rules. #0, 1, 3.  

 

 

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There is no server rule to follow the pattern, you got yourself banned by trying to teach them a lesson because you believed you were first because you followed the pattern. 

What you should have done was wave off, just because you are in the pattern doesn't give you any right over anyone else, and while you are correct that the proper thing to do is follow the pattern there is no rule on our server that forces this to take place.

Both pilots you mentioned were on SRS and made a ball call once in the groove.

I removed you from the server after you admitted that you did in fact see their aircraft land but chose to continue and cause a collision because you believed that you were 'first'.  This is not acceptable at all regardless of how correct you believed you were.  We have all had to wave off because of other traffic on the deck, being in the CASE 1 pattern doesn't give you any right over someone else who isn't in the pattern, it's a case of first come first served and you were not first down on the deck.

This whole situation could have been avoided if you had simply went around and then brought up your frustration with them on the radio or in game chat but instead you choose to collide with them and destroy both aircraft to try and prove a point.

You don't make the rules in the server sir... we do, and you don't get to collide with other people because you believe you had the right too.

And while I agree with you that they should have been in the pattern to set an example for others to follow the pilot in command was new to the Tomcat and has not had the luxury of training CASE 1 on the boat so opted for a straight in approach instead, which is completely fine in the server, there is no rule against it.

IronMike hasn't went anywhere and is still part of our Squadron.

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24 minutes ago, 104th_Maverick said:

There is no server rule to follow the pattern, you got yourself banned by trying to teach them a lesson because you believed you were first because you followed the pattern. 

What you should have done was wave off, just because you are in the pattern doesn't give you any right over anyone else, and while you are correct that the proper thing to do is follow the pattern there is no rule on our server that forces this to take place.

Both pilots you mentioned were on SRS and made a ball call once in the groove.

I removed you from the server after you admitted that you did in fact see their aircraft land but chose to continue and cause a collision because you believed that you were 'first'.  This is not acceptable at all regardless of how correct you believed you were.  We have all had to wave off because of other traffic on the deck, being in the CASE 1 pattern doesn't give you any right over someone else who isn't in the pattern, it's a case of first come first served and you were not first down on the deck.

This whole situation could have been avoided if you had simply went around and then brought up your frustration with them on the radio or in game chat but instead you choose to collide with them and destroy both aircraft to try and prove a point.

You don't make the rules in the server sir... we do, and you don't get to collide with other people because you believe you had the right too.

And while I agree with you that they should have been in the pattern to set an example for others to follow the pilot in command was new to the Tomcat and has not had the luxury of training CASE 1 on the boat so opted for a straight in approach instead, which is completely fine in the server, there is no rule against it.

IronMike hasn't went anywhere and is still part of our Squadron.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

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