Highway Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Please can we have some more night missions, but this time make them very dark so we can't see the ground units with our eyes. Last night mission was in moonlight and we could fly around spotting ground targets too easily. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yeehaa, flying at night while looking at the ground (almost) as day and having a sea dark like pitch, is very strange. New Moon or/and zero visibility to enforce ILS and general IFR, should be a new breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 well, you'll have to ask Maverick about this, but in our experience a full dark night lead to an empty server pretty quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 So the average player that comes on the 104th can only fly VFR, has no nighttime SA about his surroundings, and can only fly the same tactics as they do in the daytime? Sound to me like most people need the nighttime practice more than the daytime. Of course if they won't change tactics and fly so low that they keep crashing into mountains, then that's just lack of thinking and imagination and will blame us for having a crap mission on, rather than admitting that they are crap. Flying at night is meant to be difficult and a challenge. So much for realism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 So the average player that comes on the 104th can only fly VFR, has no nighttime SA about his surroundings, and can only fly the same tactics as they do in the daytime? Sound to me like most people need the nighttime practice more than the daytime. Of course if they won't change tactics and fly so low that they keep crashing into mountains, then that's just lack of thinking and imagination and will blame us for having a crap mission on, rather than admitting that they are crap. Flying at night is meant to be difficult and a challenge. So much for realism. Exactly, John. It is a real pitty, but most players already cry if there is cloud cover. All scream for realism, until they really get it. It is a true pitty and has haunted me for long enough. So many ideas... can be washed right down the sink. But I am all for trying it out again! Maybe things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Exactly, John. It is a real pitty, but most players already cry if there is cloud cover. All scream for realism, until they really get it. It is a true pitty and has haunted me for long enough. So many ideas... can be washed right down the sink. But I am all for trying it out again! Maybe things have changed. I can scream when I see how some load their A-10s... But I thing if the server will get filled up with missions of more realistic conditions, like turbulence, cloud base, wind, people will get used to it. I personally wish that there will be a mission where both teams A2G aircraft are operating on a frontline. Which will result in an engagement. Checking if the other is a friend or foe... I'm positive about the future, and I think that a community, what is looking for realistic scenarios, will develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Having A-G on the frontlines has been requested before by others. Unfortunately there's no way of predicting that one side will have A-A cover or not, or enough of it. In a controlled event situation where different flights are being controlled by a GCI etc, then yes it would work, but on a public server i'm afraid not. Quite simply the A-G guys would leave to fly on another server after getting repeatedly shot down. That's why the target areas are placed on their own, not on the frontlines, but out of the way from enemy fighters. As for wind, I have asked that question myself. The answer was that players were complaining that they have to fire into a headwind, where the enemy has a tailwind advantage when firing missiles. As to how much of an advantage/disadvantage I can't comment. I'm not qualified to answer that one. Personally I would like a small amount of wind. Turbulence, I could take it or leave it. Fighters pass through altitudes so quickly, it probably wouldn't bother us much. Could be fun in an A-10 though. Personally I was just looking forward to watching all the tracers and explosions whilst I capped at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Maverick Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm afraid full blown can't see night time is not practical for the server. As already mentioned, its just not 'fair' for a lot of people who want / need to fly low (Russian Aircraft). If we had working NVGs with the FC3 aircraft then yes 100% we would have very dark night missions. Sadly NVGs are not an option for us, this is why all our night missions are ran at full moon, so people can see clearly where the terrain is so they don't crash into it.... bitch about not being able to see anything... then rage quit from the server. Wind is another thing that does not work well in DCS, we have tried having wind before and it causes all sorts of problems with bombs missing targets etc. When ED sort out the Dynamic weather / Wind then we will have these re-introduced but there is no plans to do so in the near future. The Target Area ....... most people just straight up don't understand that this is NOT what the majority of the community want, only a very small section of the community want these hard core missions.... and I'll happily put money on it that this small group WILL start rage quitting when they start getting dropped by the enemy... all the time! I've heard this a million times, people requesting more realistic missions... its very easy to like the idea of realistic missions but in practice they do not work very well and lots... and I mean lots... of people leave the server because they can't get near the TA. Realistic missions are best left for oranised events with everyone on teamspeak, they are not practical for public non passworded sessions, no matter who you talk to or what they say... I 100% assure all of you if we dropped our current formula for more realistic missions the server numbers WOULD suffer. We invest a lot of time, energy and money to provide the best platform we can to the 'masses', we can't please everyone sadly but its the way it is. Our current formula is the base for our success as a Server Provider and I am very reluctant to move away from it for a handfull of people who want more realism, when most of the community... don't. IronMike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Maverick Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I've edited all 5 missions to night time on the server, so it will be lights out for a few days! Enjoy S! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Thanks for you effort Mav! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ground pounders aren't used with the illumination flares, in a cooperative team coordinating. The A-10 can employ the M257 rocket parachute-retarded illumination flare. The Su-25 can employ the SAB-100 illumination bomb, which have eight illumination flares that burn during two minutes. The last time I flew the Frogfoot it was in some mission, cleaning some kill boxes in the valleys East of Gudauta. I was in TS coordinating the use of flares with the other mix of attack airplanes. We even were coordinating IPs ingress and Time-On-Target delays. Lots of fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDsc0rch Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 ok... i brought this up to a 104th member on TS and he said say something on the forum so here i am first, thank you so much for the great server ----- many many hours of enjoyment - and i'm still a DCS newb! second, i noticed it was like... ALWAYS night anymore can we please have the sun back? don't get me wrong, variety is good, but the pendulum is swinging i guess - if we could have the pendulum a little towards the middle, i think that would be nice i noticed today there was overcast and rain in OpBison ---- nice! i'm not against variety - its just when its 100% one way.......... mm.. not so much again, thx for all the good work - i have no idea to make it all happen like the way you do ---- and i appreciate it : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Maverick Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Night time was a weekend thing, all the missions are now set on daytime with overcast weather for a day or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Thanks for putting up the night missions Maverick, it was a lot of fun. Liking the overcast too. I think it's important to change things and keep things fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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